Speaker 1: 0:12

My guest this episode is Kortis and Alice, little Alice, thank you for joining us today.

Speaker 2: 0:17

Well, thank you for having me. I'm really looking forward to this.

Speaker 1: 0:21

I hope so. I actually am a little nervous. I just watched a video that came up in my suggested video things and it was someone interviewing a porn star and at the end she goes you know, you ask really stupid questions. I can't believe. I wasted my time with you and so I'm watching that going. Well, those are questions I won't be asking Alice. So here we go. You decide to become a courtesan and there's a lot of choices out there in Nevada of who to join. What goes through your process as far as looking for the right ranch to join?

Speaker 2: 0:57

Yes. So for those who aren't familiar, here in America we do have legal brothels. They're only limited to Nevada and only in specific counties. There's about 20 odd locations spread across the different parts of the state. Now every single county has different legislation for the brothels within that county. Some locations allow the ladies to leave and go on dates with their guests, something called an out date whereas other locations require you to stay on the premises. Every single location is going to be different, and so when I was looking into joining this industry, I was mostly interested in pursuing the girlfriend experience, something that's a little bit more relatable, connective and, as such, working somewhere that allowed for outdates worked best for me at the time.

Speaker 1: 1:57

So now let's go into what goes into finding you at the brothel. One of the things that I'm fascinated with is that you can't discuss money. Even on here we can't discuss money. I totally get that. I find that a little frustrating as a consumer. Do you feel that that hurts or helps in the long run? You're not able to discuss that? Does it hold people back?

Speaker 2: 2:22

Well, I think, at the end of the day, every experience is so incredibly different that it's challenging to put a set price tag, such as dollars per hour or this much for that activity. When it comes to the Nevada brothels, every single lady is different in terms of what services she offers and doesn't offer, and every single guest is different in terms of what it is they're looking for. I find that being able to have a conversation around the financial details works really well. You figure we're able to go back and forth, work together and kind of find a happy place in the middle.

Speaker 1: 3:01

I guess the easiest, simplest way in my mind to talk about a brothel is restaurants. You have, you know, your McDonald's. You have your Applebee's. There's different kind of tiers of. They serve burgers, they serve fries, but there's different levels of stuff. Do you find that? And I don't even know if you talk about it? But do the girls discuss what they charge just casually amongst themselves? Do you have a general idea, or is this your world, your mindset? Here's what I feel my value is. Therefore, I don't care what other people are doing.

Speaker 2: 3:38

I would say some ladies are very, very open. Other ladies are incredibly private about their earnings. Personally, I had my financial earnings disclosed without my consent. I was written about in a news article proclaiming me as the most successful legal sex worker and stating how much money I had earned that year. That isn't necessarily information I would have chosen to put out there on my own, but now it's out there. I'm very happy to own that reality. So, personally, I'm very open when it comes to talking about my rates with the other ladies and making sure that everybody has a sense of what's possible coming into this industry.

Speaker 1: 4:24

Not everyone's going to be the exact price Not everything. Again, using the restaurant analogy, you know McDonald's price for this might be a little bit more, but then Burger King might be a little bit more for something else. Do you find that most of the rates are kind of in line, or is there like the dollar menu of brothels?

Speaker 2: 4:43

It's hard to say. By and large, it's up to the individual lady, and the reality is that we have multiple ladies that are earning seven figures a year. With that in mind, it means that some ladies are able to be incredibly selective about who they work with, what kind of financial things they are comfortable working with, and that really impacts kind of somebody's experience when it comes to price, whereas somebody who's newer to the industry may have a totally different way of structuring their price in their business.

Speaker 1: 5:17

Now, when someone shows up at the brothel, a totally different way of structuring their price in their business. Now, when someone shows up at the brothel, you find that most of them already have, like, a preconceived girl in mind. Or is it just whoever's there? I'm going to go for it.

Speaker 2: 5:30

Well, I only work by appointment only, so if somebody wants to see me, they need to reach out by email in advance, contact me and plan on a set day and time for the two of us to meet With. That said, there's just as many gentlemen who walk in, have a lineup and see all the ladies that are currently available that day.

Speaker 1: 5:50

So, even with the appointment, though, no money can be discussed, so you could have an appointment, show up and go wow, I am way over my head, I'm just going to have to back out. Is that something that happens occasionally? Or are you able to kind of not let it flip how much money, but kind of code words and kind of insinuate that here's what you're looking for, how much you're looking to spend, here's if that's realistic or not? Are you able to kind of casually give some information that they're not setting up an appointment, wasting your time coming out there and going, wow, this is just too much.

Speaker 2: 6:28

Well, generally, what I find is that those who are serious about coming out to the ranch emailing me, they usually will find a way to communicate what it is that they have in mind in terms of their financial reality. I have this much to work with. This is kind of what I was looking for. Experience wise, do you think something in that ballpark will be possible again? Keep in mind that legally, we can't really discuss this. It's no matter how much we tap, dance and tango and waltz around it, we do, at the end of the day, have to play by the letter of the law in regards to the specific financial dollars when it comes to discussion over email.

Speaker 1: 7:12

So I show up at the ranch and I pick you and we go into your room and that's when the negotiations start. How detailed is those negotiations? Is it more of a casual? Here's what we're looking to do for the next hour. Here's how much it is. Or is it more detailed, Like you're going to do this? I'm going to do this. How broken down is this negotiation to the degree of what they're going to do? This? I'm going to do this. How broken down is this negotiation to the degree of what they're going to do? Is there like a checklist that you sign off on? What's that process?

Speaker 2: 7:46

Well, there's no checklist, and keep in mind that condoms are required by law, so the only place that anybody is going to finish is with protection, so that's not really something that gets negotiated. That's on signs on all of the doors. Most of the ladies will also have a condoms required sign located in the bedrooms, and that's just a state law, true for any brothel you walk into. That's one of the things that distinguishes it as being a legal brothel. With that said, the conversation is exactly that. We're able to go back and forth. Tell me about what turns you on. What do you like? What positions bring you pleasure? What do you hope to get out of this experience? How long would you like to spend together? Have you thought about maybe incorporating massage or going out to eat? We have a nice jacuzzi. Let's take a bath together and then we'll collaborate, work together and put together a game plan.

Speaker 1: 8:42

One of the things that surprised me in talking to some of the courtesans is it's not always about sex. We assume that it is based on, you know, judgment and stuff like that, but it really is more about intimacy and emotions. One of the things that surprises me is that as sexual as being a courtesan is if you look at your social media page. Some of the girls do tend to be a little bit more disclosing of stuff and nudity in their social media, but it's really hard to find a nude of you. You're not exactly putting yourself out there, as you know. You're me being naked. You're looking beautiful in lingerie and stuff like that, but there really isn't the sexuality being tossed in anyone's face with you. It's really about the emotional connection and the relationship that you're building with your customer. Was that a conscious choice or how do you choose to present yourself?

Speaker 2: 9:42

Oh, 100%. That was a choice I very much so. Went into this with the desire to connect with people, get to know them, their hearts, their minds, their bodies, and have amazing experiences that both of us will remember forever, and so, with those goals in mind, I kind of structured my business in a way that would attract that sort of guest.

Speaker 1: 10:06

Do you feel that porn has had a positive or negative effect on your industry? Because when I look at porn, it's a lot of it's rough, a lot of it's aggressive, a lot of it is verbally not as appealing, whereas what you seem to be trying to sell is that girlfriend experience. I don't see posting by you by saying let me be your cum slut, because that's not necessarily what you're trying to do, unless that's what's arranged with the clientele. Has porn kind of hurt how men view women and is there? Is that something that you're kind of focused on dealing with? Or is that, if that's what they want, that's what you'll give them?

Speaker 2: 10:52

The reality is porn is neutral. Porn is whatever you make of it. If you have a good relationship and a healthy relationship with pornography, it's a good thing. It can be used with an intimacy, you can watch it with your partners, you can learn all sorts of cool positions you never would have thought to try. And if you get obsessive with it and you're gooning for hours on end and you lose the ability to become intimate with the flesh and blood person next to you, now porn has become a problem. But porn itself isn't good nor bad. It just simply is something that exists. It's not any sort of moral way.

Speaker 2: 11:29

Many of my colleagues are porn stars. There are just as many porn stars that also work in the brothel world that offer something called the porn star experience. It's not just all girlfriend experience at the brothels. Well, I'm a girlfriend experience provider and that's primarily what I offer. There's just as many ladies that offer the porn star experience. Say, you want to have sex with somebody that's having a handstand and giving you like the world's best blowjob? Yeah, you can do that too. At Illegal Bravo Like it's not just one thing, it's everything. We offer BDSM services. We offer couple services. We work with virgins. We see folks that are disabled, and that's true of everybody in the industry. Just because you're in a wheelchair doesn't mean you don't want to be with a porn star. It's an incredible space because it really isn't defined by any one person or any one service. It's really what you make of it.

Speaker 1: 12:28

Why choose courtesan over porn? Is that something that you debated at all? I mean, I'll be honest, I'm a 50 year old heavyset guy. In porn you get a little bit more choices of the guys that you'll work with, whereas if I walk into the brothel and I choose you, you know I'm your customer. It's a little less selective in your choices versus if you did porn. You'd have the contract you'd have. You know who you're working with. Why choose one or the or the other? Or do you ever consider one or the other?

Speaker 2: 13:01

Well, I guess my question would be well why would you choose foreign over brothel work? It could be posed either which way. There's just as many people that do both at the same time. It doesn't have to be one or the other. So I think that's kind of setting up a false dichotomy, of saying it's this or that, because they all exist under the same umbrella of sex work and there's really not stigma against one versus the other. For me personally, it simply came down to a desire to want to connect with people and get to have that emotional relationship with someone. On a porn set, you were there for a job. You are limited to the confines of the scene. You don't have a genuine relationship with this person. You show up, you work, you act, you finish. That's your day, whereas it's a little bit more involved in the brothel world, where you're actually getting to know a real flesh and blood person and their desires and whatever it is that may be on their mind.

Speaker 1: 14:01

Now you're a young woman, very beautiful. Are you able to have a normal, healthy relationship outside of being a courtesan at the end of a day? Are you able to enjoy yourself or find pleasure with yourself where it doesn't feel like you're at work? How does, how does your needs as a young woman impact what you're doing, and are you able to be a young woman at times and not have it feel like work?

Speaker 2: 14:33

well, I don't know if you know this about me, but I own 32 goats and also run like an actual functioning farm, and so when I'm not at the brothel ranch I'm home on my ranch ranch, and so the only thing that's stopping me from having any sort of a relationship is all the goddamn goats. Like if I wanted to go and date somebody, I could. It isn't the career that would complicate things so much, as it would be the farm animals. Like oh boy, you better be willing to muck some stalls. You're going to have to trim some hubs. You're milking goats. Like you better be willing to get up there like elbows deep if somebody needs help giving birth. Like boy, I mean, I'm not an easy person to commit to relationship wise, but that has nothing to do with the fact that I work in the brothels and my goat.

Speaker 2: 15:25

I love goats. They're like the cutest animals. They're so funny and they have like the most adorable little personalities. They're awesome. I I have horses and some guinea hens and dogs and cats. I mean it's a whole farm. There's a mini pig too. It's a whole whole thing.

Speaker 1: 15:44

And that's one of the reasons that I enjoy doing this podcast is is talking to your girls and a lot of people think it's all about sex, all about you know you wanting sex, sex, sex. But to hear you know one court is then saying that she wants to open a laundromat. Or to you and your goats. It's really, there are people behind doing these kinds of things. I think we sometimes lose sight of it that they're not just objects, they're not just here to open their legs and and satisfy you. They are people that have lives and have feelings and emotions and stuff like that. When you're not at the ranch either ranch, what kind of things do you enjoy?

Speaker 2: 16:27

Oh, I love travel. I love theater. There's so many different shows that I want to see between Broadway and the West End in London. Gosh, I enjoy photography. I like hiking, horseback riding, all sorts of things. I certainly love to stay busy.

Speaker 1: 16:49

Has anyone ever come in and said I want to choose you, but I want to give you your evening? I want to choose you, but I want to give you your evening, versus coming in and saying here are my needs. Has anyone ever said I want to give you your evening and what would that be?

Speaker 2: 17:12

Oh yeah, that happens all the time. Many people actually prefer me to kind of plan out the perfect date for the two of us. It takes all the stress off of figuring out the details and where to go, what to eat, how to spend our time together. No, let me handle it. I am an expert at this. I got us. Don't even stress it.

Speaker 1: 17:23

Now, one of the things that you have been very outspoken or speak out about is the rules and regulations working with different girls, not just in your ranch, but across the spectrum of what's going on. You're very active in the politics of it all. What got you started in that?

Speaker 2: 17:46

I always thought it was important to have a voice within this space and be an advocate, not just for myself, but for the industry as a whole. There's such an incredible diversity of women and incredible women within that space that truly deserve to have their voices heard and be represented.

Speaker 1: 18:07

And in doing that representation, is there something that really stands out to you that needs to change or improve? What would be if you were the courtesan queen for the day and you could make any kind of change? Is there something that stands out to you that says life would be better for us and our customers if we could do Blanique?

Speaker 2: 18:30

Yeah, easy, I'm going to wave my magic wand and change the 50-50 percentage split. Not a lot of people realize this, but when we're negotiating for an amount of money, keep in mind that 50% of that goes directly to the ranch. Of the 50% we see, 30% of that goes to taxes, and so what we actually see at the end of the day is a very small percentage of the actual number that gets discussed. It would certainly be nice for everybody to wave a magic wand and say you know what, maybe we don't need to do 50, 50. Maybe it should be 70, 30 or 40, 60, or some other percentage that's a little bit more balanced.

Speaker 1: 19:12

Isn't that something that comes up like a, a union contract, every few years, where they get discussed?

Speaker 2: 19:17

about or is that just? Oh no? No, we don't. We don't have a union, we are independent contractors. So in the eyes of the law, we don't have workers rights because we're not employees. We are ICs, independent contractors. We each have our own business. We file our own taxes, we manage our own everything. Essentially, we are a business within a business, much like how a tattoo artist would rent a space within a tattoo shop or a hairstylist rents a space within a larger hair salon. They'll pay a percentage back to the salon or the studio in exchange for using the space, but they're kind of their own business within a business.

Speaker 1: 20:06

And it should be pointed out that not only are you giving a percentage of what you make, but you're also paying to live there. You're not there free, correct? You're renting, basically, a room at the ranch. You're paying for that room in order to do the services, but then on top of that you're saying is you're also giving a percentage of, so they're making money off the rent and then they're making money off of each, each customer. So I mean that's a. It really changes the perspective of you know that this isn't about just the money aspect of it, because I'm sure you can make a lot more money in porn probably, and not have all those expenses taken away. I mean they're still going to pay taxes and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 20:53

Is there anyone? I mean you don't have like a union, you don't have a? Is there anyone? I know there's like a mother kind of figure that is at the ranch usually. Is there anyone else that like, who do you girls turn to talk to? Is it all internal to kind of talk amongst each other when there's concerns or things like that? Who kind of shows them the robes?

Speaker 2: 21:17

who's there to kind of protect the newer girls, um, or is it just all the girls taking care of each other at most of the locations, when a new lady starts, she's partnered with a more experienced lady that kind of shows through the ropes and acts as her big sister. They'll usually help her through the first few negotiations, show her where all the linens are, explain how all the house rules work, etc. It's usually the ladies helping each other. It's not like there's a manager coming in and assisting with those sorts of things. Now, with that said, keep in mind that when I say the industry, these are all individual businesses that exist scattered across the state. Some are very rural where they might only have one or two ladies working at a time. Some are really large houses that could have a lineup of 20 odd ladies deep, and that's going to dramatically impact what some of these experiences, what kind of assistance they're given, what kind of training exists, because they're all their own individual businesses.

Speaker 1: 22:23

Now you're competitive. I mean each girl is trying to make the most money that she can. Does that competitiveness reach? Is there a lot of catfighting? Is there a lot of internal dilemmas, or how does that all work?

Speaker 2: 22:41

Yeah, I got to disagree with that. I really can't say it's a terribly competitive industry. Outside of one specific brothel that chooses to rank their ladies by earnings, all of the other websites are just randomly generated. There's no hierarchy. There's nothing about who's the top earner, this or that. It's only one location that tries to make it competitive. The rest of the industry is more interested in the girls being complimentary. Because here's the secret Nothing is hotter than two girls working together and having fun together, than two girls working together and having fun together like it's well, top tier threesome experience two really hot girls that also get along come on, come on.

Speaker 1: 23:27

I would say I would say three hot girls would beat that. But yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying yeah, three, four.

Speaker 2: 23:32

Take the whole house, if you like. You've had people who've done that before. God bless them. Like the girls really aren't competitive in the sense that I am a four foot eight redhead. What are you gonna do? Compare me to the six foot tall blonde with, like, big boobie implants. Like, if you're into blondes with big boobie implants, you are going to go with the blonde with big boobie implants. If you like petite natural redheads, you're probably going to select me. Like it's like apples and oranges and we just happen to have a whole like smorgasbord of fruit. Like we've got everything, everything for everybody. Like it's very rare to see ladies that look the same working at the exact same time at the exact same location, unless they're identical twins and they're working together. But that's like on purpose.

Speaker 1: 24:23

How has social media helped? Is that something that you see a lot of people coming to you? Based on seeing your social media posts, I mean you have. You post often none of it's nude, which drives me a little nuts, but hey now you can always subscribe to the only fans.

Speaker 2: 24:39

Like it's out there, you just gotta just gotta pay for it you're an incredibly beautiful woman.

Speaker 1: 24:45

Has social media helped? Is that a good way to to find people? Do? A lot of people find you through social media and then come to see you. How do you? Most people find you? Is it showing up at the brothel? Is it your, your social media? I mean, you do have quite the following.

Speaker 2: 25:01

Yeah, so I no longer work lineups so people can't just come in and ask to see me. Sorry, I won't be there. I'm only there when I have somebody already pre-planned with an appointment. So most people are reaching out through social media podcasts. They've seen me on TikTok or YouTube, maybe like a documentary or news article that I was in. I put a whole bunch of stuff out there and people discover me in all sorts of different ways. One of the most interesting ways that somebody learned about me was on a fishing trip from. I guess somebody else on the boat was talking about me and then they decided to come and check me out.

Speaker 1: 25:45

Fish must not have been biting that day. What's the biggest? I?

Speaker 2: 25:48

thought it was really funny. I mean, I was definitely flattered by appointment only?

Speaker 1: 26:01

are you renting at the ranch or do you have a special arrangement where you can say I need to show up on this date. This time I need a spot.

Speaker 2: 26:05

So when I do go in and I have an appointment, I do pay rent for the day that I am there, but, unlike ladies who are setting up their own suite for two or three weeks and staying on the property for that full time, I'm going back and forth, and so I'll usually use one of the other suites that's already decorated, and so I just clean up when I'm done, and then the space is available for the next person.

Speaker 1: 26:29

What's the if you could multiply yourself? I know a lot of guys are swingingooning at that idea. If you could multiply yourself and be at every brothel for every new girl that shows up there. What's a piece of advice that you would give her if you could pull her aside and say, just to let you know that you're entering into this?

Speaker 2: 26:49

I'd like to tell you a few things that's really hard to say, because I don't like to give generalized advice, because I find oftentimes that what's helpful to one person can actually be really unhelpful to somebody else. So, like it really depends on somebody's circumstance. What's their motivation for coming into this industry? How long do they want to be in the industry? If anything, the most general advice that I could give somebody is to really think about it. What is your reason for being here, how long do you want to be here and what are your goals?

Speaker 1: 27:22

And you have the goal to have the farm. You have your life outside of there. How long is this something that you see yourself doing?

Speaker 2: 27:30

Oh, I mean, this is something I could do forever if I wanted to. I plan to become a career courtesan, so I didn't have like a hard stop date in mind. I'm sure at a certain point in time I'll inevitably retire, like all ladies do, but I don't necessarily have that planned out for the future.

Speaker 1: 27:49

And how have you? I mean, you've been doing this for a while now. How have you changed, as a courtesan, from when you first started doing it to now? Has there been an evolution in you know, Alice Little?

Speaker 2: 28:03

I would hope so. I mean, if I was the same person that I was 10 years ago, I'd have a really big problem. I mean, I have a multitude of experience now 10 years worth of different experiences under my belt, guests that I've worked with, situations that I've come up against, all sorts of things that people encounter but feel anxious about, like erectile dysfunction. I know like 50 different ways to fix that. Like that it's on. I know what I'm talking about and I've got the experience to back it up.

Speaker 1: 28:39

You focused on the girlfriend experience, but you also have a wide list of things that you do cover and things that you do do. Is there anything that you would turn down or not into?

Speaker 2: 28:52

Yeah, I'm really not into like things being licked off of my body, so like being covered in whipped cream or chocolate and then somebody licking that off of me no go, can't do it. Too sticky, too gross. Plenty of people are into that. Not not my thing, not for me.

Speaker 1: 29:12

Anything else.

Speaker 2: 29:15

Oh gosh, I don't know I mean it's like BDSM.

Speaker 1: 29:19

Are you into bondage and and rough play or are you more the girlfriend type?

Speaker 2: 29:25

I have been teaching BDSM even longer than I've been a courtesan, so that's definitely something I'm very experienced in and very, very comfortable with it's. It's really hard to say, like here's my set list of everything that I won't do. It's all tends to be very situational. It's a conversation back and forth. It's not a let me take these things off the table and then everything else is on the table. It's not here's what's on the table and everything else is off the table. It's a dynamic conversation that happens in real time and if somebody is doing something I don't like, I can just ask them to not do that thing, and that's true of anybody in an intimate scenario. If you don't like what's happening, just communicate.

Speaker 1: 30:11

So it really comes down to that communication that you talked about beforehand before coming to the ranch. How much time I mean mean you're a busy woman if you were to respond to every email and every. You know how much time is is invested in one person, should they? I mean they can't keep on emailing you for months and months and months and talking. What would be? What's the respectable time frame that you say get to know me and then come and meet me. This isn't a chat group that you're a part of. You're looking to make businesses. What is the respectable way to go about communicating with you?

Speaker 2: 30:52

The reality is you set an appointment with the lady first and show that you're serious. You set the day, the time, you make a deposit and then you're able to take the time to get to know her leading up to that appointment. If we took the time to get to know everybody in hopes that they may make an appointment with us, we would have exactly zero hours left at the end of the day. And so it really comes down to somebody only approaching when they are truly genuinely ready to take that next step and commit to making the appointment, versus oh, I want to get to know you for six months, and if somebody wants to do that, that's okay, that's also why I have an.

Speaker 2: 31:31

OnlyFans account. It's a great place. We're able to chat back and forth about lots of different intimate content on there. So if somebody wants to take their time getting to know me, they could do so, like over OnlyFans. But that isn't really something that's going to happen over email. Usually it's a okay, let's get the appointment details ironed out and then we get to kind of chat from there.

Speaker 1: 31:53

So you have your OnlyFans page. What can fans expect to see out of there?

Speaker 2: 31:58

Oh gosh, I have all sorts of solo stuff. I've got a few collaborations. I've done small groups, some funny like edited parody skits, like I did a whole 70s themed content house, which is super fun, lots of pictures. I do a live stream every week, a little cocktail show, which is a lot of fun. And of course I do video chats.

Speaker 1: 32:25

I do dick ratings, video calls now, is there a reason that your social I mean social media does allow some nudity, something like that? Is there a reason, other than if you want to see it you have to pay for it that you keep the two kind of separate? The alice little on twitter I'm assuming it's very different than the alice little on only fans.

Speaker 2: 32:51

It was that a deliberate separation of here's what I'm showing on this page versus what I'm doing in only fans yeah, it really comes down to there simply being a paywall, that genuine commitment of I'm not just poking around trying to hit somebody up for freebies and, frankly speaking, being a time waster, versus somebody showing yeah, I'm willing to throw a few dollars down and show you I'm a genuine human being and I really want to get to know you and I'm interested in what it is you have to offer.

Speaker 1: 33:22

I realized in doing this I'm more of a visual guy, like I do think if I was to go to a brothel I would probably choose you would be probably my one or two top choices. But I also wish I could see you naked, just to because I am visual, that I I know little things that I'm looking for, and so I found it interesting doing my research. I'm like you naked just to because I am visual, that I I know little things that I'm looking for, and so I found it interesting doing my research. I'm like you can't find her naked unless you go to OnlyFans. What is perhaps some of the biggest misconceptions that men coming to the brothel have?

Speaker 2: 33:54

The biggest misconception is that they are there for sex. They might think that they are there for sex. They might think that they are there for sex, but the reality is that's not always what somebody is looking for. It could be emotional release, it could be connection, it could be intimacy, it could be a facet of all these things. It could be to like check something off the bucket list, like a threesome before getting married and like having that last bachelor hurrah. There's all sorts of different things.

Speaker 1: 34:24

Is there any type of? I'm sure you love all of your clients, but is there any type that you especially love interacting with the virgin, the businessman, the trucker? Is there anything that just what excites you?

Speaker 2: 34:41

You know I really prefer older gentlemen, guys who are a little bit more mature, folks that are going to treat a lady with respect. It definitely makes a difference and it's something I really appreciate.

Speaker 1: 34:53

It's a nice treat you can say me, I mean my group that does it. So do you find that most people are respectful when they, when they do reach out? And, like I said, porn has a has an influence of how they, how, when you look at porn, how they treat view women is generally, like I said, kind of on the rough and degrading side. Do you find that most people are not always?

Speaker 2: 35:20

I. There's just as much sensual porn out there as there's, like, the rough stuff. I mean not to generalize, but what you're going to find on those free tube sites is going to tend to be the most visually stunning free clips and so you're going to get a lot of the rough stuff when you're looking at the free stuff. When you actually subscribe to some of the different companies and you start getting into their catalogs and all the nuances. There's a lot more really soft, tender, beautifully cinematically shot productions out there.

Speaker 2: 35:52

But unfortunately there's this misperception about porn that exists, part because of the tube sites, part because of Twitter. But I really try to dispel that myth that, like porn is bad for girls, Porn is degrading to women, because that's not really the truth. Some of that exists, but that's that's not what really is creating this perception of how men view women. That was there a long time before porn was. Perception of how men view women. That was there a long time before porn was. But porn ends up being kind of a convenient excuse to view sexual women in a negative light. The reality is most people are terrified to email a courtesan for the first sight and put into words what it is they're actually looking forward to like that's a nerve-wracking experience and so like people don't really email aggressive this that the other thing that's.

Speaker 2: 36:45

That's not really what's happening I think I'm the opposite.

Speaker 1: 36:48

I can easily tell you what I would do. My hang up is the money. I don't know, I don't want to insult you and I don't want to like lowball you, but I also don't know. I don't want to insult you and I don't want to like lowball you, but I also don't know what to do. So I think that would be my biggest hangup from ever. Going to a brothel would be worrying about offending someone by saying, oh, I'll offer this for that and having like boy, you have no clue what you're talking about. Simply because I don't know. The communicating is fine, but do you view this as work or is this? Is it enjoyable for you? Where do you find the greatest enjoyment in doing this?

Speaker 2: 37:30

Well, I like getting to make memories with people, like getting to spend time with somebody. That's not work. Having to do social media media yeah, that's a chore.

Speaker 2: 37:41

I don't really like social media but it's a necessary demon of needing to be online and exist on the internet as a beautiful woman is making sure people know you exist out there in the world, and so like, yeah, that feels like work. Doing goofy tiktok dances yeah, that feels like work. Doing goofy TikTok dances yeah, that feels like work. I don't really want to be sitting there going do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Like I'm good. I'm good. I mean I will do the TikTok humiliation ritual, because that is what we do on the internet. But like that's work. Spending time with people is what I actually enjoy, like that's where the fun is for me. That's why I do this.

Speaker 1: 38:21

Does it ever get frustrating that? I mean, you're an incredibly beautiful woman. Like I said, you'd probably be my top one or two choices if I ever went to a brothel because of the look of you. You're smart, you're articulate, you have a ranch, so you have a business sense, you have dreams and goals and stuff like that. But anytime you post a picture you almost need to be in lingerie. No one ever comes into a brothel and says I'll take the smart one. Does it ever get frustrating to kind of have to be posing as one thing but also be a smart, intelligent woman where you say you know, I'm much more than what I'm conveying on Twitter? If I go to your Twitter page, all I see is you in lingerie. It's beautiful, gorgeous lingerie. You're sexy as hell, but there's so much more to you. Does that ever kind of like? I am so much more than this and I wish there was a way I could also convey that. Or is this just part of the business?

Speaker 2: 39:24

well. The reality is my guests take the time to get to know me. I've got my website linked in the bio, the alice littlecom. People click it and the first thing you're gonna find is a little bio about me. Sure, there's gonna be photos in there, but there's gonna be just as much information about me, my services, what I offer, things of that nature. Those that are seriously interested take those next steps, whereas those who really only look at women as objects, they just kind of keep scrolling. That's kind of my experience with it.

Speaker 2: 39:58

The reality is social media is based off of algorithms. We post so people see it. If I post myself in a turtleneck sweater, that is not going to get nearly as much reaction as me in lingerie or a swimsuit and so on. Social media, of course I'm going to post those things. But is that all I am? Certainly not, and my guests don't have the perception that that's all I am either. It's incredibly rare that you find a lady in very, very skimpy lingerie and lineup. Most ladies tend to wear robes or dresses or little like 90 negligence. Most of the ladies aren't running around half naked. That's like a, like a fantasy that people have about brothels, but that's like not the actual reality.

Speaker 1: 40:48

Sure Well, thank you for coming on. I just have one final question. When we look at you, we see Alice little. Uh, courtesan, we see Alice little in you know lingerie stuff, like that Sex worker, it's all tied to that. But when you get up in the morning at your ranch, uh, you hear the goats in the background. You go into the bathroom and splash a little water on your face and look in the mirror. Who is it that you see?

Speaker 2: 41:16

I see me. I mean I. I don't put on a character to be Alice Little, like I am a very authentic portrayal of myself. It's not like I'm trying to hide my 32 goats away and pretend to be a slick New York City person, like I just am myself. And I think that's what people find attractive is that I'm not putting on a character like I'm just me well.

Speaker 1: 41:42

I thank you for coming on. One of the things I enjoy about doing this is we really get to see personality as beautiful as you are. On social media, uh, you know we see little clips of you here and there, but I really wanted to find the personality of these girls, hear them laugh, hear how they talk and really really shed light to who they are, other than just opening their legs and saying come on and visit me. So I appreciate you coming on, taking the time out of your busy schedule and letting us get to know a little bit of Alice Little, like I said, when I reached out, you were probably my one or two picks on if I ever did visit Roswell, and so this is kind of a fun little semi-fantasy for me to be able to talk to you. But I appreciate your time and look forward to following your career.

Speaker 2: 42:33

Thank you, have a good one.

Speaker 1: 42:34

Thank you.