Speaker 1: 0:12

My guest this episode is actress Maisie Monroe. She's a talented actress here and thank you for joining us today.

Speaker 2: 0:21

Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure.

Speaker 1: 0:23

So what got you started in the industry?

Speaker 2: 0:27

I actually was pretty young when I watched my sister create her own OnlyFans. I think I was in high school still and it was when OnlyFans first came out and I was really intrigued and I really looked up to her. So she kind of just did her own thing. And as soon as I turned 18, she asked if I wanted help doing it. And I kind of asked her as well and said, like this is what I want to do. Do you want to help me with the behind the scenes of, you know, setting up my account and stuff? Because no one around me in a small town really did anything like this. So I thought it was really empowering and I literally signed up the night before I turned 18 so that when I was 18, it was fully ready to go and confirmed.

Speaker 2: 1:11

So this was a few years ago that I started OnlyFans and kind of walked into the industry as Macy Monroe. I chose that name because Marilyn Monroe of course she's an icon and I really want to embody that Hollywood style in porn and nude content. And I started OnlyFans first and then I moved more into doing more videos and more pictures on there and just this year actually is when I started doing real porn content on major websites. So I was doing a video scene with a Canadian producer. His name is Mr XS and he did an amazing showcase debut video with me back in February of this year and after that video came out it had a lot of views, it had a lot of comments and some really good feedback.

Speaker 2: 2:06

So I decided this was kind of already something I was thinking about getting into. I just didn't know how, and ever since then he has helped kind of help guide me, like my sister did, and get me into where should I go into the industry. So I did start my porn career. In August of this year I flew out to LA.

Speaker 1: 2:29

Very new.

Speaker 2: 2:30

Yes, very new, and it kind of went from there. I started in LA, we traveled around to Vegas, phoenix and shot in a few places, and now it's just up from there. I started in LA, we traveled around to Vegas, phoenix and shot in a few places, and now it's just up from here. It's just how many times can I get out there, shoot content and shoot good content that I want to distribute in my own town as well and just kind of keep those things up.

Speaker 1: 2:51

So I do lots of live streaming as well to bridge that gap between streamer, creator and performer now is your sister in the industry or is just the only fans kind of a fun, sexy outlet for her?

Speaker 2: 3:05

um, good question. She actually is no longer in the industry at all, um, not even for only fans. She ended up realizing it wasn't really for her. Um, and a lot of people have that as well. But I feel like she kind of led me there, knowing it was like my thing for sure, and it's just totally by choice that I kind of took that whole journey and she kind of stopped doing it. So she's a full-time mom now?

Speaker 1: 3:35

Has she been supportive, now that you've continued and grown on what she had done, or did she realize that she opened Pandora's box? I didn't mean to go that far. I just meant to take some cute pics, because you're my cute sister.

Speaker 2: 3:49

No, she absolutely is proud of me. My whole family is and totally supports me. Of course, I know a lot of people aren't as blessed with their families being supportive, and I certainly am.

Speaker 1: 4:01

Now, what has it been like? I mean, you're still new doing it. What has the expectation versus reality been like for you?

Speaker 2: 4:10

I think you know what. It's pretty similar. I think I had a good expectation going into it because of course I did OnlyFans first. I think it'd be new for someone that did just turn 18 and start porn. I think it might be all glitz and glamour and then they kind of see the work that goes into it.

Speaker 2: 4:27

But being an OnlyFans creator, I did expect a lot of work to go into it, a lot of time and a lot of, you know, preparing for contracts and behind the scenes and agencies. Of course I've been with OnlyFans agencies before as well, so I kind of just expected all of that to to be on the same side of the performer side and have to like deal with all the behind the scenes. It really does. I did have a good expectation so it does really match that. Um, there's a little bit that I've learned. Like sets are a really long time compared to an only fan set where it's just kind of a collaboration one man, camera and porn can be a lot of, a lot of people in the room, script writing, cameras, lights, action, except I. I love that. So for me I feel like it should be more of that important really what is it?

Speaker 1: 5:22

I mean, I would think it'd be awkward to have so many people looking around you and just the illness, one amount of doing it versus only fans. You can create your own content. You can say I'm gonna go into the shower this morning, take my shower, and all of a sudden that becomes content. I'm going to go to bed or I'm going to play with myself, and that becomes content. Whereas porn, there's a script that you have to learn. You have to do this and you're kind of at the whim of someone else directing it versus doing something that you could enjoy yourself. Is that something?

Speaker 2: 5:59

that you do enjoy. Then that whole scripted part of it yeah, absolutely. Um, I've done the other my own content thing for so long that I kind of craved that um other creativity part of content. It also just kind of matches where I was going to go in a career when I was younger. So I actually won the drama award in both my elementary and high school. So I was already going into film school for college and for me, like actually doing porn, acting is more my style than just gonzo porn or collaboration porn or self self porn. For me, the acting part of it is my whole dream of the acting side. So the scripting, the people watching me I think it's absolutely empowering and creative and that's my favorite set to be on really.

Speaker 1: 6:53

And well, what has been the doing it? I mean your sister, because I mean it sounds like your sister didn't really unleash the beast. The beast was already there.

Speaker 1: 7:07

She has kind of helped give you directions for it. How long did you realize that porn was something that interested you? And what was it about porn that kind of got you interested? I mean you're a beautiful young woman. You could have sex with any guy, so it's not like you're fired up for that. I mean you could have a regular day job and have a great sex life.

Speaker 2: 7:34

What was it about porn and kind of being on that screen that made it for you? That's a good question, because I've always kind of wanted to be someone on camera. When I was younger I knew I wanted to do camera work or modeling and stuff like that. But I always was a little promiscuous, especially getting into those like teen ages, like 17, 18. Like you said, having having sex obviously I could do that with anybody, but I wanted to make something of it myself because I thought it was so glamorous. A lot of people have a stigma that's not so glamorous, but for me I just I was really indulged in that and I of course watched a lot of porn myself. So while watching the porn I would literally think to myself how cool would it be if this could be my job, like I wish I was in that scene, I wish I was doing that and I just kind of made it my reality and knew that it's something I've always wanted to do.

Speaker 1: 8:28

And and my five favorite things like modeling, camera acting, sex, script writing and being on camera, like all of those things I could just kind of put into one job it's amazing you hearing they're using the term um, that it was glamorous for you because, like one of the last things I pulled up just to kind of research, you was, you getting your throat pounded, um, and so glamorous, and that kind of thing didn't seem to match. But to hear you say that it's glamorous and something that you, you know, a, you enjoy it, did you see? I mean, I don't know what kind of relationships you have, but has it impacted your relationships at all?

Speaker 2: 9:07

Not really. I would say obviously I choose kind of who's in my life based on how they do perceive me. If someone isn't going to perceive me in a right light, like a friend or something, obviously maybe they're not the right friend to have. But I actually haven't seen it ruin any specific relationships, especially with my family. Everyone is very supportive, everyone loves me just the same and I love them just the same. So family is 100% supportive.

Speaker 2: 9:35

And as for relationship, monogamy isn't really a thing in my life. I've kind of discovered that over the past few years. But I just can't be with one person and if one person doesn't want to just be with me because of my work, then that's kind of like a win-win for us. So if I can be open, and then they can be open as well, because I just think that not one person can serve one person all the time and be happy. But again, I don't have any like boyfriends or girlfriends right now and I actually haven't for years. So for me it's just kind of an easygoing, flowing thing right now and definitely hasn't messed with anything. It might in the future who knows, because I've heard that a lot but it might just more steer me away from actually dating as a whole.

Speaker 1: 10:22

Okay, that's interesting. I mean because I get what you're saying. I just it'd be frustrating if I was a boyfriend. Not that you're in the industry, but like I go and have a long day and you go have a long day, you come home and You'll have a long day. You come home and here's my cute girlfriend. It's like, hey, let's go in the bedroom and have a little. You know like lots of what I've been doing the last you know 12 hours. I'm just wondering how it interrupted or hindered relationships as far as sexuality. I mean, can you have a sexuality where it doesn't feel like you're at work.

Speaker 1: 10:53

You know, if I work at McDonald's all day and you know you come home and you're like, hey, let's have some hamburgers for dinner, I'd be like I want something else. And so you don't think that would hinder even a non-mononymous relationship where sexuality could still be enjoyable, but not feel like you're at the office.

Speaker 2: 11:11

For myself. Absolutely. I think that it's still enjoyable. I don't actually have sex much outside of the industry though. I'm really working on myself when I'm at home and really I go live almost every week, so I do get to still feel pleasure for myself there.

Speaker 2: 11:39

So it's not like I don't have any sexual relationship and what I do try is in my scenes and in collaboration work too, I really bring that chemistry, and I feel like that's also something that kind of sets me apart in the industry is I'm not just there in the scene to make money. I really do want to embody that role of being there, whatever it is in the scene, their lover or you know their their fun thing, and I really want the audience to know and see and can tell that I'm in the scene, dropped in and, you know, pleasuring myself, pleasuring them and experiencing all that sexual tension in the scene. So I really just kind of bring my porn life into my real sex life. Even if I do feel like I would like somebody, I feel like maybe myself would kind of try to bring them into my world instead of me bringing myself into their world. I don't know if that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 12:36

Now, when you're out and about not just with friends and stuff like that, casual conversations are you open with who you are? I'm an actress. Do you keep it that vague? How was the reaction when they hear that you're a porn star?

Speaker 2: 12:53

I do both. Actually. There are some times where I do just keep it vague because it's kind of like not the time or place. Or if there's someone like at the gym, like I go to the gym all the time, I don't want someone like that to just, you know, always be seeing me and then and then know level um, and I'm friends with them and stuff, of course they they'll definitely know, especially if they follow me, they'll definitely know. But sometimes I do just say, yeah, I'm a porn star, and to random people it kind of just depends on the day, um, and they do react like either one of two ways like oh okay, that's really cool, let me follow you, I'll watch some of your scenes, I'll come follow you, I've seen you before, or something like that. Or, um, a very opposite, different way that's happened at the clubs or upon meeting other people.

Speaker 1: 13:47

They'll just say okay, nice to know, and walk away probably walk away like you're a terrorist or something like that. What, overall, has the fan reaction been like? I mean, I know you have your, your regular supporters, but there's a lot of interesting characters and stuff like that. Has the overall reception and treatment of you been been acceptable or do you kind of tune that part out of it and focus on the enjoyment that you're getting from what you're doing, unless based? I mean, mean you still appreciate your fans, but how do you kind of balance the not so normal ones?

Speaker 2: 14:24

A good question as well. Like we had spoke about a little bit earlier, I am nominated for the fan favorite category, so I think that kind of speaks in itself as like how my fans feel about me. They are loyal, supportive and dedicated to not only me but a bunch of other creators as well, and seeing that support in that community is kind of my number one thing. So, like I started with OnlyFans, with my community, growing into porn community is something that means a lot to me and growing that community on social medias like Twitter, instagram I try with TikTok, but really the fan audience is everything to me, even more than really anything else, so that support from them to me has been exceptional. Like I don't.

Speaker 2: 15:17

I'm really really proud of my fans and really really grateful for them to support me. As far as I've gotten so far, I feel like I've made a pretty big growth from August till now, especially in this year, my Instagram grew exponentially I got to 30k this year and my Twitter's almost at 20k. So for social media, I feel like that part of my fan base is with me all the time. I've lost my Instagrams many times and they've always come back to support me and follow me again and as far as it goes for my audience on OnlyFans, that fan community is amazing too.

Speaker 2: 15:58

They join me live every week and it's really funny because they now know each other. So they'll chat in the comments and like ask each other, how was your week, how was your football game? Um, we have our own little chats and like we all kind of know everything about each other. That to a point that makes us a community. And when we all see each other come together like I I'm so proud of what I've created with them and how much they really do support one another as well and we'll put a link to to the voting place that they can go and vote, and I encourage everyone to go and vote for you.

Speaker 1: 16:34

Thank, you. Do you think the only fans was a big part of that, Getting you allowed to communicate and kind of work with a one-on-one basis with your fans to build that to when it came to being nominated. You had that fan base to kind of help.

Speaker 2: 16:49

Absolutely yeah. So I would say OnlyFans is really where it stems the most because Instagram and Twitter it's hard to answer everyone's DMs, but on OnlyFans I am on there every day posting answering messages and, like I said, if I'm live streaming every week, I'm speaking to them directly so they can hear it come from me and from my heart, and that really was the biggest outlet for me, along with Twitter, for my fan nominations. I would say both Twitter and OnlyFans are kind of up in there, because I do comment back on Twitter and OnlyFans the social media page, the feed, isn't as big as as Twitter because there is no social part of it. You just have to follow that one creator and then you only see who who you're following really. So it's it's kind of a mix between both, but absolutely.

Speaker 1: 17:43

Now your Twitter page shows a little bit. I mean, there's some movies that gives everyone a great idea of what you look like and you're a beautiful young woman. Uh, how much is your only fans page right now?

Speaker 2: 17:54

I actually have two. So my first one, that I started a long time back, was it used to be around ten dollars but I actually made it free. So it's free, just like twitter is free. And then you can go on there and you can buy videos, custom yes, everything else, and there's teasers on there as well, but it just kind of gives everyone a chance to come in, speak with me, order customs if that's all they want or if that's what they want first, and kind of have that variety. They can buy lingerie, they could buy a video.

Speaker 2: 18:28

It's just kind of of everyone's different on what they like. So that kind of gives everyone an opportunity to come into my world without having to be that VIP fan right up front at first. It also gives everyone a chance to see me live, because I'm live on the free page every week so they can come and they can come join my live. Usually they'll tip on my live because they actually see okay, the creator is here in front of me instead of just a bot on the page. A lot of fans will like to pay if they can see you and they know it's you, rather than if they're just talking to a screen and then I have sorry what can they expect during your lives?

Speaker 2: 19:11

oh, lots and lots of stuff. So I'll kind of go through the reward section. I do have action deals where it's like you know, they tip five dollars, they get a spank, or they tip ten dollars for my wheel spin. I'll show you, I actually brought it here, oh wow wow, this is my big wheel.

Speaker 2: 19:29

If you're a visual listener you can see, but if you're an audio listener, basically it's just a wheel. You spin it and it has a bunch of different options on it that you can win for $10. So it's like booty, spank pussy, spank, twerk, lick nipples, oil nipples strip one piece, spread ass, get in a sex position. Nipples strip one piece, spread ass, get in a sex position Bunch of like cool things that can liven up the live stream. But as for the reward section, basically if you get me to $50, I take my top off. If you get me to $100, this is like all together $100, all together I get naked and we do a little twerk show. $200 is a sloppy blowjob on one of my blowjob toys, and then 300 is vibrating pussy, 400 dildoing pussy and 500 is cum or squirt, and I usually do squirt, so everyone likes to see that. So we've gotten to our goal of squirt numerous times.

Speaker 2: 20:27

Every time to our goal of squirt numerous times every time yeah, numerous times by community building, like everybody. Just, we have action deals coming in, spin the wheel deals coming in. I used to do custom videos on there so if you tipped 100 you'd get a custom video. After I do video bundles so people can just people are tipping all over and then it gets you to that reward way faster.

Speaker 1: 20:48

So now everyone is encouraged to tip, and I encourage you to tip your lovely young woman. But the guys that are sitting in the back watching, they still enjoy it and hopefully feel the need to tip at some point. You're a beautiful woman, but you're I don't want to say average, but you're. You can blend in. You go out down the street and no one says, oh my God, she's a gorgeous porn star. Have people recognized you on the street? Or are you still new enough where there's kind of a little bit of anonymity that you don't get necessarily recognized?

Speaker 2: 21:26

Yeah, so far right now I don't really get recognized. A lot of people that do know me already kind of know what I do in my city. If they already know me, then they'll recognize like okay, you are the person that I see online a lot and I already see you a lot, but I haven't had anybody specifically recognize me in Canada. I have had one person in the US. I just started, like two weeks prior, and I went to a restaurant and I'm just eating and the waitress came up to me after and she was like do you mind if I take a picture with you? And I was kind of thinking like wow, I just started. I have no idea if she knew I was porn star or if she kind of just heard it from someone else in the restaurant like I was. I was really confused but of course I took a picture with her and another girl there in the restaurant and that was that. I went back a few times. It was an amazing restaurant and no one really said anything. So one time.

Speaker 1: 22:26

But really nothing. You thought you were someone else or knew who you were.

Speaker 2: 22:30

I wasn't really sure and I didn't want to ask because I didn't want to, like, crush her dreams but no speaking of women.

Speaker 1: 22:36

Are you more into women or more into men?

Speaker 2: 22:39

um, actually I would say both. It really depends on whether it's a relationship or just sex. But I would say maybe a little bit more into men than I am into women, because the masculinity of you know that side compared to the femininity, it just that kind of attracts me a little bit more. But I do love women, especially when it comes to sex and creating and all of that stuff live streaming. I'm very much into women in that way. But for relationship I think I'd be more on the man side.

Speaker 1: 23:13

Now the male in me thinks you're gorgeous. You look gorgeous naked. You're a beautiful woman. The older man dad side of me wonders what this little young woman is doing. Do you feel there's a lot of procedures in place that protect you, but do you feel that the industry has your best interest out there for what you're doing? Or do you find that sometimes I mean, and you enjoy I mean so to preface this you enjoy what you're filming, so the content that you're putting out there, that you're getting pounded and you're getting. You know this and that, but does it feel that you're being treated with respect? Or you're hired because you got great breasts and we want a guy to shove his cock down your throat? Um, that's what you're hired for. Do you feel that they're, that you are a professional, that they treat you as a professional and you're respected? Or is this just something that you happen to enjoy, so you put up with it?

Speaker 2: 24:10

no, I I absolutely do think I'm respected and many women in the industry that I've spoken with are respected. Um, especially having an agent and a manager by my side. They kind of help navigate through that and there obviously is a lot of people that do get taken advantage of, but I feel like the respect is more given than people think, especially in a company in an industry that has people that have experience and know what they're doing. So I've been very blessed to work with the companies I have worked with so far and everyone has treated me with respect and kind of just like every other porn star.

Speaker 1: 24:50

We we do the job, we get our stuff done, we get paid and there's really been no problems for me so far and that's one of the things I think is is never really discussed in porn because, like I've seen some BDS or BDSM videos where the woman is just all kinds of things done to her and she's crying and she's doing this and that, but then they end the video with an interview with her afterwards and they're like how was it? She's like I loved it. You're watching it as a viewer, going, oh my God, she's in so much pain in this. Can she, you know, do this? This must be awful for her. And she's like no, this is what I signed up for. This is, this is great.

Speaker 1: 25:34

I think we kind of missed that disconnect when we watch it, wondering, you know, are they just being abused and these women are just being used for their, their bodies? When there is some pleasure in it? Do you find, I mean, the degree of pleasure we say say pleasure, but do we a lot of times, especially when you're younger, associate pleasure and sexuality with emotion? Do you ever find yourself kind of leaning into that? Or is this just? You know another guy? He's there to do the same job that you are and it's not not? I mean, I would find it hard because I don't do porn. I have do those kind of things that we associate with lovemaking. I mean lovemaking and porn are the same things on many levels. Does that ever kind of get in the way a little bit? Or? I know you're not looking for relationships, so maybe you're able to tune that part out. But how does that work?

Speaker 2: 26:29

um, I would say I I do a little bit associate porn with emotions, but I I actually don't. I don't think I do very much. It makes me very happy, obviously, to do it, and pleasure is, of course, probably the number one thing I can take from this. That's making me, you know, happy and enjoy it. But, um, it's kind of like there's there's two parts to it, like there is like a disconnect where I know that we're performers, I'll probably see you again, but we're not, we're not together in that way and I feel like there might be a little bit of a disconnect there. But for me, really like I do enjoy it. So there's not really a part where I get emotional being in a scene or something.

Speaker 2: 27:15

So far everything's been really really good and I've been really excited for the scene to come out and really happy during the scene. And, like you said, there's the video before and after. Not all producers and companies share those videos, but it's just kind of a safety net. There we kind of talk about what happened in the video and every video that I've done so far has been a really good emotion taken from it. I guess you could say Gone home really happy.

Speaker 1: 27:44

So other I mean so that's not just the video that I saw that does that, but pretty much all of them do that kind of as a safety procedure to say, hey, you did this willingly of your free will and stuff. Has there anything you've been asked to do that? You just said I'm just not comfortable with that right now, maybe because you were new or just because not that you have standards, but you have certain things that you will and won't do. No-transcript yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:11

So there's before, before you kind of get booked for a scene. Um, usually how it typically goes is you will know what you're going in for. Your agent will discuss that with the producer first. So if you know that you're going in for a boy, girl with no anal, they're not really going to ask you to to do anal or do anything that's out of what was discussed for that price.

Speaker 2: 28:32

Some might ask you for extras, like if the cum shot wasn't wasn that price. Some might ask you for extras, like if the cum shot wasn't wasn't talked about. They might ask you are you okay with it on your face? Are you okay with it in your mouth or do you want it? Are you okay with a cream pie? In that case, like you might call up your agent and ask what should I do in this situation? Um, how much extra should I be charging? If you don't already kind of know your rate that you want to charge for? Or if you're just comfortable with facial or on your body, you can just say that as well.

Speaker 2: 28:59

So I feel like there are things that are discussed beforehand and you kind of know what you're walking into and you kind of have that general idea of what they might ask you to do or not to do. For example, if something like ribbing is in the scene, you might know that before and not afterwards. But there is some things like that that'll pop up and you kind of just decide whether you want to, whether you want to charge extra, whether you don't want to, and you're not comfortable with it. And it kind of is a discussion with my agent first, so he knows like what I am and what I'm not comfortable with, and then whatever is booked is kind of told to me beforehand. So I think that so far every company that I've worked with I had the expectation and I've gone in and nothing extra was really required in that scene, unless it was talked about like a cum shot that was paid extra for or something like that.

Speaker 1: 29:52

So the contracts are really I mean, they're really broken down.

Speaker 1: 29:58

As far as I mean, like you said, a cum shot to your face might be a different price than the cum shot to your breasts or in your mouth yeah so it's really broken down to where the expectations that the directors, or whoever has it, makes up these, they're making these films, are saying, okay, we're gonna do this to her and we're gonna do this to her, and then the cum shot's gonna be here to her and you can go through that checklist and so it's a little almost checklist of events. So there's no, it's not like, yeah, they're gonna fuck around for a while, then he's gonna come, it's it's very detailed and you know exactly what's coming on absolutely even even before the scene.

Speaker 2: 30:38

Most of the time you go through your do's and don'ts with the creator um sorry, the performer you're working with and the creator of the film. You kind of all talk together like what are our do's and don'ts, even if they were discussed prior. Some companies that I've worked with have, like you said, an actual checklist on a paper that you sign and consent to. This is what I've said I'm allowed or would willing to do in the scene and this is what I've said is not willing or not allowed, whether it's in the scene discussed or not. You always kind of write that down and then you go through the motions with your performer of OK, what scene is going to be the reverse cowgirl or the doggy scene or whatever sex positions you're going to do. So you kind of know and you have that expectation of what's going to happen on set. So that's really important for most companies and creators and performers to follow.

Speaker 1: 31:29

The discipline that you talk about is simply amazing to me. I mean, maybe it's because I'm a regular guy and I guess I view sex a little bit differently, but I would just think to get caught in that emotion of having sex and going you know harder or you know suddenly saying you know, come in me or I'm you know and going well, that's not what we agreed upon and to be kind of lost in that emotion where you're like do this to me because you're so entangled in it and realizing that the checklist actually has him doing this next versus any kind of needs, and so the kind of discipline to separate the two and kind of not get caught up in the emotions is is simply amazing. The doing onlyans and the doing the professional stuff is that helping fuel kind of what you do for OnlyFans or do you kind of keep it separate? Are the fans from OnlyFans demanding to see more of your porn stuff? How are the two kind of separate?

Speaker 2: 32:33

I think. To me they're actually not as separate as one may see or think. Some performers do have different names for OnlyFans and their porn, but for myself, they are both the same and, like I said, I picked my OnlyFans name when I was 18. I used that for my porn name because for me, I'm creating a brand all together. It's not just I'm here and I'm over here too, it's this is my whole brand and this is everywhere where you can watch my brand or purchase my brand or or see me perform. Pretty much all of it works together as one.

Speaker 2: 33:10

So, yes, my fans do like to see. People are how do I put this? People are enticed to see more. But if they want to see more, they will go to the porn sites or to Twitter and they will watch it. And then they'll come back to OnlyFans and talk to me about it me in the scene and then talk to me about the scene or um sext with me about the scene that it gets them really turned on, and then we can chat about it in my live stream or they can watch.

Speaker 2: 33:40

I really liked this blowjob scene you did. Do you have anything like that? That's more amateur, that I can buy another one of and then they'll buy it from me. So there is that connection that I actually have been trying to cultivate throughout. Everything is bringing my OnlyFans people to watch my porn to my Twitter, to come to many vids, to come to Fansly and watch me on all of these sites that I'm live on. Or if I'm live on this stream one night and this stream next night, they'll come and they'll transfer from there to there. So it kind of all works together and I've found that a lot of people that found me by porn and Twitter have now come to my OnlyFans to get more of that experience.

Speaker 1: 34:18

Now, is OnlyFans the place that you really want people to come to in the end? I mean, is that because you have more control over that? Because one of the things I find I as a male I love it, but as a creator I would hate it Porn used to be. If I wanted to see you or a video of you, I had to go down to like a sleazy kind of place and go in the back section where the videos were, and that was the only place I could get it. Now, stuff that you did a month ago is free clips of online everywhere that I can watch it for free, and not the pay site that it was intended to.

Speaker 1: 34:54

How frustrating is that as a creator? Or do you see that it kind of helps get your name out there, even though it's bootleg, or it's because these aren't your typical bootlegs or they're poor quality? These are the actual clips and videos where I could watch hours of you and not have to pay a dime, which was not the intended purpose of it. How frustrating is that? And that is that kind of why only fans is nice, because you maintain a lot of that control. You don't see much only fan stuff hitting the internet. I mean there's some, but not a heck of a lot, not like you do your porn scenes um, so I'll answer kind of like both those questions in the two parts you'd.

Speaker 2: 35:34

You'd ask do I like people coming to my only fans and is that kind of the number one? Yes, it's better even if they come to my VIP. I forgot to mention in your previous question. My VIP page is $24.99 a month. You can come there. You can watch all of my videos for no pay-per-view, so they're all just on the site and then at that point you do get discounts on customs requests and video calls as well with me. So I offer one-on-one sessions and that's kind of the connection place where they can come and they can see me.

Speaker 2: 36:12

For me and I feel like my fans that do buy those things and are really loyal with me. Although they can see those free clips online, they still don't feel like they're interacting with me personally and that's why they do come to my VIP, pay that $25.99 a month $24.99, and get that video chat. Feel with me almost every week. I have very loyal subscribers and fans and I feel like as much as the porn I put out is free, they love every part of supporting me, so I do like them to come to my OnlyFans, but with the free porn online. I personally love it. I think it's just more promotion and more exposure for me and for my brand and it really shows people what I can do for the industry and what I can offer outside of the industry, like on my OnlyFans as well.

Speaker 1: 37:02

I think that's one of the great things about OnlyFans is it's allowed regular people to kind of find that empowerment.

Speaker 1: 37:08

I mean, you look great naked but there's a lot of moms and wives that haven't always felt that they were sexy.

Speaker 1: 37:16

They're discovering their own sexuality at older ages or, you know, after having kids, that are putting on only fans and finding you know people that enjoy it, and I've always found that with porn it doesn't do much for me unless I can know the person and so like only fans really lets you get to know them. So even though you're not going to have sex or anything, there's a connection that you feel, and that's one of the things I'm hoping to do with the podcast is is give insight, because I think now talking to you, you're even more sexier than just watching, except getting giving a blow job to some guy because we get to see your personality and stuff like that. And giving a blowjob to some guy, it's because we get to see your personality and stuff like that, and so that's kind of what I'm hoping to do here. I'm hoping that people go and actually vote for you. That sounds like a very fun thing to be an up-and-coming newcomer and so we'll put a link to that.

Speaker 1: 38:05

What does the future hold for you? I mean, the sexuality seems like it's a big enjoyment. I mean within certain reasons. It's not that you're going to go around and sleep with anyone, but does the idea of becoming a stripper and going, you know, on like a circuit or even like a brothel, is that something that interests you? What is the kind of opportunity to grow for you?

Speaker 2: 38:28

For myself personally, I really, really do want to grow into, of course, working with companies and video brands and everything that kind of brings that Hollywood brand back into porn.

Speaker 2: 38:45

That's script writing, the camera and lights, the hand makeup that go behind it, but also the production of actually how the movie is going to look afterwards also the production of actually how the movie is going to look afterwards. So for me, bringing that Hollywood vibe back into it is something that's really important in my long-term goal and I'm hoping to kind of cultivate my own studio and brand that will bring that back into porn and as well as just showing everybody what kind of female workers can do in the industry. There's not very many that run studios or companies or agencies. Even it's a lot of male producers and male studio owners, which is great. But I feel like with the femininity in Hollywood we should kind of bring that back into porn. And that's kind of where I'm headed in. My five or 10 year journey is not only performing really well and hopefully making a name for myself and all of these award nominations and winning I would hope so but it's just making that brand out of the female studios that we all love and see now.

Speaker 1: 39:55

And hopefully, with more females getting involved, we get a little bit more storylines other than stepdaughter and dad porn, because it just seems like that's no offense but that seems like what the newcomers get pegged into. It's like, oh great, another stepdaughter meets her dad story. And there seems to be a lack of creativity with porn these days and I think some of it's just because they just want to get to the good stuff and and their intentions of watching you are probably a little bit intentions of what different than your intentions of what you wanted to do, and I do think it's. It's interesting to hear these stories and I appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 1: 40:35

Uh, I wish you best of luck in the in the contest and I just think it's. I think we need to hear from women like you, because I think there's a lot of assumptions and, like I said, you know, the last video I saw of you just researching was you getting your your throat pounded. Does she really enjoy others just for the money? And so I think it's important that we hear that these are choices and enjoyments and and and stuff that you enjoy. So I appreciate your time and wish you all the luck.

Speaker 2: 41:05

Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me and listening. I hope that this can inspire other performers into turning their side business into a career and knowing that people are out there to support them and cheer for them on.