Speaker 1: 0:12

My guest this episode is talented porn star Rachel Steele. She's also the CEO of Red Milk Productions. Rachel, thanks for joining us today.

Speaker 2: 0:22

Hi, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 0:23

So one of the things that fascinates me about your story is early on, you had the life of what many would feel is the average everyday housewife. You had two kids, you owned a nail salon. You were living life normally. What made you go from that to being one of the top rated milfs in porn?

Speaker 2: 0:46

That's a good question and it was all by accident. It was not intentional. I did not have any thoughts, dreams, desires to eventually one day be in porn and producing porn and erotica, fetish and kink. I was a very vanilla woman and grew up in a very vanilla family and community in New England, spending summers in Maine just really vanilla family. And so how it all sort of unraveled was I was fooling around in the backyard by the pool with my partner at the time. He later turned out to be my husband.

Speaker 2: 1:32

We got married six years later but when we were first dating he took some sexy pictures of me out by the pool and then he let me know that there was an adult website that was doing a hot wife contest photo contest and he asked me if I wanted to send the images in.

Speaker 2: 1:52

They were non-nudes, they were just me and a white tank top that said lifeguard and red bikini bottoms to match the lifeguard symbol there, and I was all wet and wet t-shirt kind of thing, that kind of vibe by the pool. And he sent them in and I won this contest and it was like $600. And that was 20 years ago. So $600 was a good amount of money for me. I was very happy owning a hair salon at the time and working six days a week, struggling always, and so I was like, wow, that was easy. How can I do this again? And I started researching and going down the rabbit hole and I ended up finding webcamming and I decided to give it a try because I was very intrigued by the whole process. So that's, that's how I kind of started to open the door to porn.

Speaker 1: 2:48

Now that photograph and I'll put a link on to on this episode that photograph is on your website. I'm correct, right. I believe so yes that's the one at the bottom. There it's a gorgeous picture. So going from webcamming, I mean you're in the safety of your own, your own home, you're producing, you know your, your stuff at the home, your husband's there, you know it's all kind of safe and secluded. How do you go from that to then doing actual porn?

Speaker 2: 3:22

Yeah, well, it was a process and it evolved organically. So I went from webcamming probably for I'd say eight months, maybe a year, for I'd say eight months, maybe a year, and then I started to again. I was going down this rabbit hole of the adult industry. So I found that I was in Tampa, florida, and I found out that Tampa is a huge fetish producing, fetish film producing state. So I started looking at a website that I found it was clipsforsalecom. They still exist. They're amazing. I'm still on there. I have five studios on Clips for Sale.

Speaker 2: 4:05

So I looked at this website, clips for Sale, which was selling downloadable clips, fetish adult kink content, more so on the fetish and kink side than just vanilla adult porn. And then I started reaching out to some producers that I knew were local and I started a one model place page and a model mayhem page throwing up some pictures of myself saying what I do and what I don't do. And I got some bites from some producers in Tampa and they reached out to me and said we'd like to shoot you. And this was all fetishy stuff like light bondage, housewife next door, bound and gagged, tickling foot fetishes, smoking fetishes, ass worship fetishes, all these sorts of in that, those genres, um, and I started shooting for these producers and I really enjoyed shooting and the creative part of it all and the fetishes and the kinks that people had. Everything that I was shooting was mostly custom videos, which means they're coming from clients that are reaching out via email and asking the producers can you make this, I want to see this, so it's their fantasies. So I was intrigued by the fact also from webcamming, dealing with people on a daily basis, live and speaking with them and them sharing with their cameras off, very shy, very secluded, sharing with me their kinks, fetishes and desires, and I'm not a shaming judgmental person. So I was very open to all of these thoughts, as long as they were of consent and they weren't harming anyone so you know, or themselves I would encourage.

Speaker 2: 5:52

So I started shooting with all these producers. They were putting they were selling their content on Clips for Sale website and I saw how well I was doing on that website. So I decided to start my own website and start shooting for myself doing solo. Only I wasn't working with any other men, for sure. I started doing solo and then I started to work with girls, other women doing girl girls, fetishy things, and at that point I hadn't even been labeled a MILF yet, that I didn't even know what it. Milf wasn't really saturated. Online Like today, it's the number one searched thing, and so it just keeps going. The story just keeps going. I started shooting for the producers in Tampa. Then I decided, okay, I can do this myself. Producers in Tampa. Then I decided, okay, I can do this myself, started doing it myself, and then I grew and scaled into working with other women.

Speaker 2: 7:02

Then I decided I started using my husband as the stunt cock, so to say, because he was my age or older, so he couldn't play my son or anything like that, my stepson. So we just used him like from the waist down. And then I started working with other male talent. Once my husband was like, look, this has gotten too big, there's too much content we need to make and I can't do it all. So we had to start delegating and getting more people involved. And then we started getting the male talents involved.

Speaker 2: 7:39

And then my mind and my clients, my fans, followers, customers they're the ones that created this little puppet that you see before you today. They're the puppet master, and I am but the puppet, because they have told me all their fantasies and fetishes and kinks, and I've created them by producing, producing them, and so most the majority of the films that I have and I have 5,000 in my library currently um, they came from people out there just like you, you know, and um, so it just grew and I started to then work with multiple partners and having like big, huge scenes where, you know, there was five or six people in the scene and it my writing grew and, uh, then we really both quit our full-time jobs and did this, did took this seriously and just did this full time.

Speaker 1: 8:35

Now you said you had grown up as very vanilla. Was this initially the attention that you were craving, or was the whole sexuality aspect of it really eye opening and just kind of open the floodgates for you?

Speaker 2: 8:51

Yeah, it's definitely not attention I was craving. I've never been that kind of a woman. I don't actually like attention. To be honest, I mean I was really excited about all of this more on the psychological level. Finding out what made people tick, finding out people's kinks, fetishes and fantasies and then bringing them to life through the media of film that's what I love the most about this career that I'm in right now.

Speaker 1: 9:21

Now, I would assume a lot of your fans are men. But I really want to look at the aspect of the person that you were when you had the two kids, when you had the nail salon. What would you tell other women that might not even I mean, at the time you probably didn't even realize the, the beast that was about to be unleashed what would you tell a wife that's in kind of the situation that you were in, looking back, that is vanilla, that just kind of is curious and says, oh, that's, that's not for me, but but is that a path that you suggest to other women, not to the extent that you went through, but just opening that door to someone's sexuality and exploring a little bit more than they're used to?

Speaker 2: 10:07

Yeah, well, you know, before you know this career and I was in the salon industry. I was I before that. Even I left an abusive man. He was my husband at the time and he was um. We were stationed in Hawaii, he was in the army and he was abusive and had an alcoholic problem and a drug problem. So I decided after three years that I was going to leave him and I had both children at that time. They were only 17 or 18 months apart and I literally told him get help, get therapy, go to a 12-step program and clean yourself up, or I'm leaving. And he chose not to, so I left. So that was extremely scary.

Speaker 2: 10:55

I was only in my 20s and I thank God I have a supportive mother. She was able to help me, to give me a place to stay until I got myself a job and a. I could work in any hair salon. So I decided to do that. And so you know, the reason I would share this story with anyone else is to give them the motivation and inspiration to always be fearless, as fearless as you can, as long as you're not going to harm yourself or anyone else in the process, but never say never. Never say the words I wish I should have. These are all words you're gonna regret later in life. You see opportunities. You see an opening. You should take it, because if you don't take that opening, somebody else is gonna jump right in there quickly, and that's the person you wanna be. So I left.

Speaker 2: 11:54

I moved to Florida, I started honing my craft doing nails in a hair salon and after working in the hair salon for about a year, I gained up a really good clientele and I said to myself I don't want to work for this salon anymore. I want to own my own. I want to work on my own. So I started researching the area. I found a salon right down the street. All my clients followed me and I started working in this little mom and pop hair salon. Years later, the woman that owned it said I'm tired, I can't be on my feet anymore, I'm just going to close the shop. I begged her Now I'm a salon owner from leaving a man that was abusive, you know, and having $800 in your pocket and you don't know anyone, and you just moved to a new state with two babies to owning a hair salon. The kids are now older. I'm doing okay. I'm actually purchased a home, you know, and that's this was all my own doing so you know. You know this was all my own doing. So, you know, never be afraid to make choices.

Speaker 2: 13:11

And then, when I saw the adult industry, as a vanilla person not very grew know, really, really bad. It was so patriarchal to women. And you know, I'm so glad that I've been able to open my mind and my perspectives have changed and I've been able to liberate myself and rewrite my story and not listen to those old narratives and I would encourage people to do this. And this took me a lot of therapy to get to this point and I'm constantly growing and changing and evolving and I will always be. But that would be my advice to anyone, any gender, because other people besides just women can be stuck in really negative, unhealthy, toxic, dangerous situations and there's a way out.

Speaker 2: 14:00

And then when I saw the adult industry and started going down that rabbit hole, the reason I chose webcamming was because I felt that I had complete control over that. I'm the one sitting in front of that camera, I can turn it off whenever I want to and walk away. No one is telling me what to do. Nobody is, you know, bossing me around. So that's why I went that direction. I really believe my entrepreneur mind, but also I want to be in charge. I want to be in control kind of mindset.

Speaker 2: 14:32

Then, when I started to look into okay, maybe I should start producing some, some fetish films, that's when I decided I'm going to do this myself, because I don't want to be told what to do.

Speaker 2: 14:43

I want to have charge and control over what I'm doing and have a say in in how it's done and all of that. That's that's how I got started and and that's the advice that I would give is you know, look, look at anything that you're wanting to make a huge, big change that you're unfamiliar with, and the trendy little saying of that means get out of your comfort zone. But only do it if that's something that you feel like you're even curious about. Don't ever do it. If you're completely put off and you're only doing it for the money, because the money doesn't come easy and if you're not feeling good about yourself on the inside, then that money is going to be you know. It's not even going to be worth it, because you could be being traumatized. It's just not your cup of tea. So you know, I wouldn't encourage anyone to get into anything, unless they know that what they want Everyone is so different.

Speaker 1: 15:41

One of the things I like about your story is that the photograph that we're talking about is a very sexy picture, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't describe it as sexual. And yet here you have, you know, a husband looking at his wife says, thinks that she's beautiful, takes a picture that he finds beautiful. I'm sure you thought it was a nice, you know cute, lovely picture. But then they have others kind of appreciate that. I think so many more marriages would be beneficial if there was that little kind of playfulness in them. That's something as simple as an innocent taking a sexy picture of your wife that didn't have nudity, that didn't have any real sexual suggestions. But there's a playfulness to him doing that.

Speaker 1: 16:28

And that opened the door to more things. But I think more couples need to have that flirty, to have the wife see her husband looking at her the way he looks at her through that picture. Um, I think really can kind of spice up the marriage. Not saying they have to start, you know, webcamming and anything like that, but I think there's something that really says something about the relationship that you had, that a photograph that is that lovely without being pornographic can really open the door and it can make you feel you know special. He loved it, thought you looked beautiful enough to to send it into the contest.

Speaker 1: 17:09

I think more marriages could use a little bit of a spice like that, not maybe to the degree that you went, but I think marriages would be a lot more enjoyable if we could just kind of see each other the way that we see the other person, but we always convey it oh yeah, I definitely agree with you so your husband then sadly passes and you took a break from everything, and it was about 10 years, if I'm correct, and it was basically the fans that that brought you back.

Speaker 1: 17:43

So you went from vanilla to the extreme. Some would say you took a break. What was that return like and how had things changed? How would things evolve? I assume webcamming had become much more popular. The porn industry had really kind of the internet had really bloomed with with pornography. What was your kind of big surprises, coming back to it?

Speaker 2: 18:08

yeah, everything you said check off all those boxes coming back. Well, I stayed very active on social media and I did some sexting and staying in touch with the fans Instagram, and so, thanks to my such loyal fans. You know they kept me, kept me going and when I came back, I started shooting with my current partner. I started shooting with my current partner he was also a fan, he still is a fan and we started dating and that's another story I'll tell you. But we're still together six years and he's now my content manager. But when we first started seeing each other and dating, I decided, okay, I want to come back, I want to start doing some videos and throwing them up. Okay, I want to come back, I want to start doing some some videos and throwing them up. So we uh just did like sell a smartphone on a truck, on a tripod, started making some new content and he was doing fine as a performer. So I tested him out a couple of times and he did really well. So, uh, that got me excited and and inspired. And also, uh, his name is John he's. He's also into all the same kind of content that I shoot. He's into it all. So he really, on a personal level, enjoys and gets off on the whole MILF mom kind of stepmom, kind of different different tons of kinks. So it was enjoyable to film with him and you know, coming back after it was about seven years that I took off. So, yeah, we started putting that stuff, that content, up and he started editing and learning how to edit and take care of all that and we started to blossom.

Speaker 2: 19:53

And the other thing about the internet when I was first coming back was around 2018, I guess when I kind of made my little comeback, web camming had exploded. It's just infinity. There's so many camming sites now and back when I was doing it there was just a handful and they were all kind of very hush-hush and sort of they would just pop up an ad every once in a while. And now if you're on any porn sites, you'll see pop ups all the time, just ads flashing in your face, like Las Vegas, all campsites it's insane how many there are. Only fans didn't exist and it just sort of popped up and came out and that was another big surprise to me. I'm like what is this? What is this all about? You know learning all about OnlyFans and how that's going to work and that was a brand new concept.

Speaker 2: 20:42

So the webcamming, the OnlyFans, um, and lots of other apps, um, and lots of other producers and production companies I was. I only knew a handful of mainstream ones at the time. And then you know 2018, when I was looking through all of the different companies. There's just so many of them and they're huge, and Pornhub. Pornhub was there, but it wasn't very big, and I started to. I joined Pornhub and started to see all of you know everything. There was just so much, so much to know that it can keep you busy. Seven days a week, easy eight hours a day can keep you busy.

Speaker 1: 21:23

You had come in from a vanilla point of view, got an experience. Then you left for seven to 10 years, came back, had a previous experience, had a previous experience if you were to be deemed a porn queen for the day. What's like the biggest changes that you would enact to the porn industry.

Speaker 2: 21:45

Um, that would have to be all the restrictions and censorship.

Speaker 2: 21:50

I would want that figured out.

Speaker 2: 21:52

I I understand that certain things are in place to protect which I am 100% for Exploitation, underage, non-consent, anything like that, absolute no-nos in anywhere, in any business, any company, in anything.

Speaker 2: 22:12

But right now we have so many restrictions and the banks are getting involved and there's so much political and bureaucratical stuff that's just sort of getting into our industry and they're kind of lumping us all together with all the negative stuff that's happening out there with sex trafficking and things like that. They're kind of looking at the porn industry like we're a part of that and I can speak for myself and for every other creator that I know and the companies that I know mainstream we are absolutely not and we do everything in our power to protect and prevent anyone from underage or to exploit anyone, or no consent or any of those things, or no consent or any of those things. So that's what I would change is this whole restrictions, consent, not consent, age verification, the way that they're doing things right now. It's really hurting creators and it's making it almost impossible for a lot of us to produce and sell our content.

Speaker 1: 23:12

Now when it comes to selling your content in Hollywood. If you were to steal a clip or a movie and try to post it on YouTube, it would be taken down. But yet, when you Google your name, I can find hundreds of hours of free videos where I don't have to pay to go to your website or have to pay. Is that something that needs to be relooked at?

Speaker 1: 23:36

How do you combat something like that when so much of the stuff that you worked so hard for is available for free. Or is there kind of a mixed blessing in that by finding that content it makes me want to learn more about you or search for sites and then hopefully join your site. Is it a mixed blessing? How do you view that?

Speaker 2: 23:56

Yeah, I would say it's a blessing. On a tiny, tiny percentage, like a 3%, maybe you'll get somebody that'll come to your actual site and purchase your hard work that you've put out there. I actually have a. Most of us do have a takedown company. It's called and that's where they are DMCAs. They send these, take down this content. It's copywritten and it doesn't belong to you. If you don't take it down within five business days, legal action will be taken against you.

Speaker 2: 24:32

Those kinds of companies and we call them pirates, the folks that are stealing our content. And there's a lot of them overseas, like in Russia. In Russia we can't really touch them legally. We could go after them, but it would cost more money to try to actually do that and it's out of the country, so we don't have jurisdiction and the laws and all kinds of different obstacles. You know obstacles, but it's, it's amazing at the theft that's out there. Um, and you know we pay a good chunk of money every month to take down companies and they they're you look in on the porthole of all the links that they've taken down every day. So it's a big problem and that I don't know how to combat because we do everything in our power, we watermark our stuff. You know, it's just a matter. That's the thing on the internet. I think whatever's on the internet, somebody else could copy and take it if they want.

Speaker 1: 25:34

Is that just something that you have to kind of shrug your shoulders and say that it's just part of the industry? Is it something that you see people actively trying to correct? Or is it just because it's porn? People kind of shrug it off and say, hey, it's, it's what you do, so there's nothing we're going to do about it? Yeah, I mean, if this was another industry would the government be more involved, but because it's porn, the government just doesn't care of all the stuff that goes on there.

Speaker 2: 26:02

Yeah, that I don't know about. Like I don't know about who you could really complain to. You're right, doing a comparison. As a Hollywood producer from the film industry or Rachel Steele porn producer, adult industry, I, if you put them side by side and said, hey, can I get some help here, I'm kind of leaning towards the film industry would get some help and I would be sort of like, well, you know, I honestly that's a really good question, something we should research.

Speaker 2: 26:31

But uh, cause I don't want to make a claim that I wouldn't be uh, considered, you know, you know, taking it seriously or not. But, um, I do have a lawyer and I do have a takedown service. So, and most of the creators that I know all have DMCA takedown uh services. So everyone is fighting as hard as they can to not allow your content to be stolen and whenever we find anything stolen, we tell each other, we send the links, we let people know. So we definitely don't shrug our shoulders and just say, oh well, what can we do? I mean, unfortunately, it's a battle that I don't think is ever going to stop, but we definitely are all fighting.

Speaker 1: 27:14

I was going to say it sounds like you're trying to weed a gigantic field using a spoon Exactly. And trying to keep up with it. Exactly so you founded, or you became the CEO of Red Milk Productions. That was basically designed to host your content. Is that correct?

Speaker 2: 27:32

Yes, that's my production company Yep.

Speaker 1: 27:34

Yes, yep, content. Is that correct? Yes, that's my production company. Yep, yes, yep. So does it ever get tiring to? I mean a lot of your videos, as great as they are, is you with the stepson, you with the? The son's neighbor is there? Does it ever get kind of creative? I don't want to say frustrating, but here's another scene with you and the stepson is there.

Speaker 1: 27:59

Does that ever kind of wear thin on you? Is there enough in the fetish world that you're asked to do other stuff, that it still feels creative, or is it basically?

Speaker 2: 28:08

filling the fans needs no, I mean my content is from a to Z. I am stepmother, Wonder Woman, superheroes, bondage, kink, dominatrix. I play so many different roles and so many different characters and I have very different genres. So my website is not just MILF content. It's. I do Linda Carter's Wonder Woman. I have hundreds of those videos. They're full-length movies for the superhero kinksters out there. I just started doing more femdom, female domination style content, which I really enjoy. Personally, I am in school right now at a dominatrix academy studying the psychology behind the submissive man and I'm in. I'm starting to do more content that's sort of got that feel and vibe to it with a woman is completely in control and in charge. So yeah, I have so much different content on my thing. Now I do have a lot of MILF videos with mom and stepson type things, but I would say it's a pretty mixed bag of lots of different genres.

Speaker 1: 29:31

Is there a kink or a fetish that has surprised you, that, like people are into that may not be your initial reaction, but hey, that's what they want, so let's give it to them.

Speaker 2: 29:43

Yeah, one of them comes to mind quickly. It's the whole stuck. Have you even heard of it?

Speaker 1: 29:48

I have not heard of that. Oh wait, I have heard of that.

Speaker 2: 29:52

Yeah, it's like you're reaching in the dryer to get your clothes out and all of a sudden you're stuck and then your boyfriend's stepson whoever comes and he fucks you. Or you're stuck under the coffee table and then your ass is in the air and then somebody comes and they fuck you. So I don't really get it.

Speaker 1: 30:13

I'm trying to remember the start of the what's her name is very big into that. Yeah, oh, I can't remember her name. She's a blonde, Corey Chase. Corey Chase is big into doing that. I find the free use now is a term that they use which seems odd, but that's another popular one. Is there any? I mean, I know you have the Red Milk Productions as a woman, as a fan, as a sexual person, is there any sites that aren't yours that you enjoy?

Speaker 2: 30:52

Hmm, I like, oh no, you don't have to plug one if you don't want to.

Speaker 1: 31:00

Is there content I guess that you enjoy. What do you watch? That kind of gets your.

Speaker 2: 31:08

I personally my personal masturbation videos would be BDSM and like older, younger. I actually like the older, younger older man, younger woman porn.

Speaker 1: 31:24

I can appreciate that I have only recently switched I guess because I'm 50 myself only recently switched to suddenly finding myself wishing I could find someone younger, that kind of porn. There is a couple of websites that I really enjoy that are trying to be a little bit different creatively. Um, it's ones run by women and they do some interesting twist on porn like uh, tinder, they'll do like real life tinder with fans and they'll swipe left or right and they'll engage with the fan and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 32:03

But there's some some interesting stuff. I think porn gets repetitive to a lot of people, but there's a lot of creativity out there that can enhance relationships and desires. And I think as we get older, we we shift our porn things. Is there anything that, as you've gotten older, your tastes have become different or something that you weren't into when you were, you know, younger? Getting involved in this is now something that you absolutely love and crave? Or something that you craved when you were younger is now something that's, now that you're older, like?

Speaker 2: 32:39

how have you?

Speaker 2: 32:40

evolved yeah, I think that that things have changed for me in respect that I used to. When I was younger doing, when I first started doing doing this, I was, you know, more attracted to, like really young guys like 19 to 25. And now I'm finding that I'm more attracted to men that are, you know, 30 to 45. So that's definitely changed for me. And what else? The whole BDSM and kink. I was never even aware of BDSM and kink, even though I shot for a producer or two in Tampa that were complete BDSM freaks. I just thought it was weird and freaky and I didn't understand any of it. And I just did it because I was getting paid. And now I'm actually freaking masturbating to it. So it's interesting. It's interesting how either something changes, shifts, or it was always there but just wasn't poked.

Speaker 1: 33:51

You know what I mean now how much of your tastes and kinks and the fetishes, like you're engaged right now, if I'm correct, right with the fan that you had mentioned. That's right, yep, yep, is that something? I mean? He is a fan, so obviously he likes the stuff that you do, but are you able to do a day of filming and then go home to him and have an enjoyable sexual relationship that doesn't feel like you're at work, or even with a fan? How does that kind of translate and are you able to be two separate things, or is it just an entire part of you that you are?

Speaker 2: 34:29

That's that's that has evolved for me as well. In the beginning of our relationship, well, we were shooting together, so it was, you know, I wasn't away all day shooting and then coming home to him. But now we are not shooting together and he's doing all the administrative work and I'm shooting in Los Angeles and Vegas with professional people in the industry and he gets very turned on by it all. So we actually have fun with that. I can tease him about it, tell him how I enjoyed the shoot and send him little pictures. I can tease him about it, tell him how I enjoyed the shoot and send him little pictures and, just you know, play with his mind and get them all worked up.

Speaker 2: 35:09

Usually after a shoot, though, when I come home, I'm really drained emotionally and physically, and that's not a good time for me. So it's usually a day after or something like that, and then when I'm feeling all back to life, then we definitely use this in our own personal sex life. We use who I'm shooting with and little pictures I might send, just little teasers. So, yeah, it all. It all works out really well.

Speaker 1: 35:38

So now, before, when you had left for seven to 10 years, you came back. Social media had really changed. You had your fans from the earlier days, but now fans are I mean, it's not uncommon to follow someone on twitter, on instagram to have that real connection only fans. You know, you had mentioned, I think, on one of your recent only fans things where you masturbated in front of a on or on camera to a fan and really enjoyed it. How fans, now that they have kind of a more of an access to you, how do they react to you? What is the best way for a fan to react to you? What's the? How do you prefer that fan interaction? If they see you at like an event, or maybe you're doing like a, a porn not a con, but a porn gathering or an AVN type deal, how do fans? How is the best way that you prefer fans to interact with you?

Speaker 2: 36:39

Yeah, that's a good question and I really hope that there's a lot of listeners hearing this because I would say, please respect with respect and approach me and speak to me just like you would anyone, any member in your family or anyone that you care about. I am a person. At the end of the day, all of us are. We're not one dimensional characters. We are people with feelings and fears and traumas and we want to be respected. I want to be respected and I always appreciate and I've been very lucky in this 20 years.

Speaker 2: 37:16

I can maybe count on my hands how many jerks I've dealt with and as soon as someone's a dick to me or rude, disrespectful, they're gone.

Speaker 2: 37:26

I block them, they're gone Like they're. I don't argue back and forth, I don't tell them not to talk to me like that no, no, no, you're gone. So I've been really lucky in that aspect and and I have been to events and I've had people approach me and I always appreciate so very much when they're respectful and they come up and they just introduce themselves, tell me their name and that they're a fan and you know, and then I'm like ready to take a picture with them, like I'm my, my guard goes down and I'll do anything for you because I appreciate my fans and followers. But if you come up and say you're hot, I love your tits, or you, you know you're, you've got a great ass, like you know I, I really don't want to. You know that's not respectful. So just use your manners. Pretend you're talking to someone that you know and care about. I would do that with anybody that you meet.

Speaker 1: 38:21

That is like celebrity in your eyes and I think that's one of the reasons I like doing this podcast is yeah, you're rachel steel. Yes, you're the milf. You know that everyone dreams about that. You know there's all these videos of you, but there's an element of that that's a performance, that's a persona, yes, and you still may love doing all that stuff, but there's also the reality of who you are and there is a little bit of a distinction, or at least a line that shouldn't be crossed. It's just because in all the videos, you love it when the 18 year old, you know, pulls out his cock and you know whatnot. But those are a performance and even you, you love doing it.

Speaker 1: 39:08

There's a separation there. That that's really what I wanted to push, that, that narrative that you had mentioned. How is it? I mean, are you still able to be you? I mean so much of your social media you can't put on, you know, a heavy jacket and post a picture. Your pictures almost not necessarily have to be, but you do better. You get more clicks when your pictures show your beautiful cleavage or you're wearing lingerie or you're showing a video clips. Are you able to separate that and go out into the public and just be you? How do you find kind of a break from, from being the persona to to being you?

Speaker 2: 39:51

the minute I turn the camera off, I'm me. I put on my sweat pants and a t-shirt and my sneakers and I'm ready to go. I don't walk around in heels and thigh highs unless I'm performing, because that is correct. I am, am an entertainer, I'm a performer, I'm a film producer and I create characters and I act. So it's just like any actress out there that you're familiar with who is in a TV series that you watch. You know that that person is playing a character and, at the end of the day, they're not going to be wearing those same clothes, they're not going to be living in that little apartment, et cetera, et cetera. So you know, and also, on my social media, I post no makeup pictures. I'm in gym clothes. I'm.

Speaker 2: 40:38

I've posted when I climbed Mount Everest, I was trekking Mount Everest and it was rough and tough and I was without a shower for two weeks and my hair was all frizzy. Of course, and you know, I don't have any qualms about being me online. I don't use any filters on any of my social media posts. None of my pictures or my videos are filtered to make me look better. So, yeah, I pride myself on doing that and I do it on purpose, because I want people to know that I'm a real woman. I'm a real person and that all of us make up very nicely. We can look amazing when we put on full makeup and high heels and lingerie. We look totally different than when we do on an everyday basis. So I want people to know me as an everyday person and what I look like when I'm all glammed out. So, yeah, I try to do a little bit of everything in there.

Speaker 1: 41:33

Now, as CEO of Noth Productions, you pretty much can arrange or schedule almost anything you want. Is there something in your career that you haven't done sex-wise, or arranged or planned? Is there something that's on the bucket list or have you pretty much done the bucket list?

Speaker 2: 41:53

Let's see. Yes, I would like to have another few videos where I'm with two guys, another few videos where I'm with two guys. I've done, I think, only one, one video with two guys, so I would like to do some more threesomes where it's two, two men and myself. I would like to do more of those, and I would also like to do more female domination and have more submissive type men in my life, like that I can play with and do sessions with. I think that's about it. Yeah, that's all I can think of.

Speaker 1: 42:36

And I'm not aware if you've done it before or not. Have you ever given thought to I mean, so much of your story can be applied to the vanilla women out there. Not going to the extreme that you went, have you ever thought of writing a book or doing other avenues outside of porn? That kind of opens the door to your world for other women that might have been in your predicament might enjoy.

Speaker 2: 43:03

Absolutely yes. That's actually on my list, that I've already reached out and I am reaching out and doing research on how to go about writing a book about my life from the beginning all the way up to now, because there's a lot of sex, drugs and rock and roll in there and a lot of stories that I know for sure people would be inspired by to survival kind of stories and inspiring stories. So I definitely want to share that and then I would love to do a series like about it and have it be like a series of the book.

Speaker 1: 43:46

Now wrapping things up here and again, I appreciate you coming on. You had mentioned several times that a lot of what you do is fan oriented. It's what the fans want. The fans requested, the fans called for this. The fans have asked you to do this or that. If you were to clone yourself and well, not even clone yourself, but what is what would be on your list for you? What would be some? I mean, how do you find sexual enjoyment? What would your request to you be that you would find enjoyable?

Speaker 2: 44:22

I think I would do more, like I said earlier boy, boy, girl where I can have two men and just have them just devour me and like, worship me and, you know, like a cougar on the prowl kind of thing. You know you find your prey, you pull it in and you just play with it and toy with it all night long until you want to eat it. So that's kind of what I would like, that would be, which I can do. So that's the good news is, I'm actually now that I'm meeting more people in the industry performers, male performers I'm going to definitely arrange that and I'm going to start really enjoying myself and hopefully the fans will enjoy it too.

Speaker 1: 45:03

Is the adult industry getting too watered down or not? It seems like almost every 18-year-old is considering or has started an OnlyFans page. Is that watering down the quality out there, or is there young up-and-comers that you have kept your eye on that you really like?

Speaker 2: 45:26

I think it's saturated and I think it's too much and it's getting out of control for the creators to manage it and handle it. Um, everyone is so concerned about quantity versus quality these days, versus quality these days. And how are you, how are you possibly, how are you possibly able to shoot content, manage and upload that content, edit that content, post it on several different platforms, manage those platforms and then chat with fans on several different platforms? There's not enough time in the day. So you know it's becoming absolutely saturated and it's getting to a point where it's getting so out of control that the creators are having to hire and delegate responsibilities off to other people. So now it's like who are you really talking to?

Speaker 1: 46:20

And who's? Maybe a young up and comer female that you think that people should watch out for, that you would love to work with someday.

Speaker 2: 46:29

I really don't know that because I'm new to working with mainstream, very new, so I really don't know. The only women I know are, all you know, 40s, 30s and 40s, not really young girls.

Speaker 1: 46:46

They're still young. So finally and I ask this for all my guests is Rachel Steele. We look at you and we say Rachel Steele, the MILF, rachel Steele, the taboo, you know porn star Rachel Steele. You know CEO of Red MILF Productions. But when you get up in the morning you splash a little water on your face. You look in the mirror for the first time that morning. Who is it that you see?

Speaker 2: 47:14

I would just say I see Rachel, not Rachel Steele, just Rachel, that's just me.

Speaker 1: 47:21

That's a good way to end it. Rachel, thank you so much for coming on. I sincerely appreciate it. It's a little. One of the things that's enjoyable about this is it's a little bit of a fantasy to get to talk to the women. I've enjoyed watching and so I sincerely appreciate it, and I hope this gives your fans a little insight to you. I encourage them to check out your OnlyFans page and I'll put a link to that as well as your main page that you have, and I'll link to that too. But, rachel, thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 2: 47:53

Absolutely. Thank you for having me, and my website is rachel-steelecom.

Speaker 1: 47:59

Thank you.

Speaker 2: 48:00

Thank you.